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  • #1827
    chasjs
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    I know that boiling of the wort sterilizes the wort, drives off DMS, etc. But I was wondering on an IPA if I can reduce the boiling time if I am not doing any early hop additions. So if my first hop addition was 30 minutes could I just do a 40 minute boil. Saves time – of course I would have to adjust my water calc for less boil off.

    I was wondering what others thought.

    #1828
    Spauld
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    I always prefer doing a long boil. So I boil for 30M even before I add my 60M hop addition. So 90M, regardless of style. I find that it helps to form and precipitate trub, making for clearer wort.

    #1829
    gozer
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    I boil just about everything for 30 minutes. Unless it’s a big beer and I need more mash liquid, then I’ll go longer to boil that off.

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    #1830
    RyanP
    Keymaster

    Here are a couple of articles on the topic

    How to Prevent DMS in Beer

    https://beerandbrewing.com/a-novel-approach-to-dms-reduction-part-1/ (part 2 is below part 1)

    I’ve always understood it to be a much bigger deal in all malt-light pilsner malt type beers. I think I’ve only gotten it at competitions from a sour beer before (likely 100% pilsner base malt and potentially low/no boil), it seems incredibly rare in the homebrew world and I’ve had many no-boil/short boil IPAs from homebrewers over the years. I’d guess that 2 row doesn’t contain enough precursors for it to be a major concern.

    But even with slow chilling (my friend Dan makes very good lagers and he does the 24 hour no chill method after his boil) I haven’t tasted it.

    I personally try to do 75 minute boils minimum (15 min pre 60m hop addition) myself. But I usually make beers that benefit from 60 minute hop additions. If I were to break this rule, I’d do it with an IPA or pale ale probably, and one of the juicier variety.

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    #1832
    Sam
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    I think that if you are using pale malt, or higher kilned malts, you do not need to worry about DMS. Yes, a longer boil might contribute to other wort changes (darkening, melanoidins, …), but if those changes are not your goal for this brew why boil longer?

    I think you will be fine with a shorter 40 minute boil, and start adding hops at 30 minutes. As you mention, just adjust your boil off volume.

    What is the risk? If you make the beer you envision, it is a success!

    Sam

    Serving:
    Genmaicha Brown Ale
    Munich Dunkel
    IPA

    Conditioning:

    Fermenting:
    House Amber

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